Comments for ElectionLeaflets.org http://blog.electionleaflets.org The live election leaflet project Tue, 29 Nov 2011 16:01:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 Comment on The AV disclosures are out by Freesteel http://blog.electionleaflets.org/2011/11/the-av-disclosures-are-out/comment-page-1/#comment-6223 Freesteel Tue, 29 Nov 2011 16:01:23 +0000 http://blog.electionleaflets.org/?p=925#comment-6223 [...] Update: Continued on the election leaflets blog [...] [...] Update: Continued on the election leaflets blog [...]

]]> Comment on Blue State Digital are utter crap by Freesteel http://blog.electionleaflets.org/2011/05/blue-state-digital-are-utter-shite/comment-page-1/#comment-6222 Freesteel Tue, 29 Nov 2011 13:17:38 +0000 http://blog.electionleaflets.org/?p=914#comment-6222 [...] in finding out whether Yes in May 2011 Ltd really did blow most of my donation money on an utterly worthless American internet company, and nothing on [...] [...] in finding out whether Yes in May 2011 Ltd really did blow most of my donation money on an utterly worthless American internet company, and nothing on [...]

]]> Comment on Electoral Commission says no to crowd-sourcing election leaflet monitoring by Freesteel http://blog.electionleaflets.org/2010/01/electoral-commission-says-no-to-crowd-sourcing-election-leaflet-monitoring/comment-page-1/#comment-6196 Freesteel Sun, 22 May 2011 10:07:50 +0000 http://blog.thestraightchoice.org/?p=410#comment-6196 [...] the Electoral Commission — among all the other stuff they don’t do — produces a plethora of large-font guidebooks that lays out the [...] [...] the Electoral Commission — among all the other stuff they don’t do — produces a plethora of large-font guidebooks that lays out the [...]

]]> Comment on Remember to say thanks by nuclear war 2011 - female attire, world war ii, bikini world http://blog.electionleaflets.org/2011/05/remember-to-say-thanks/comment-page-1/#comment-6187 nuclear war 2011 - female attire, world war ii, bikini world Fri, 13 May 2011 22:16:38 +0000 http://blog.electionleaflets.org/?p=902#comment-6187 [...] Because of its location away from regular air and sea routes, Bikini Atoll was Additionally on this topic you can read: http://blog.electionleaflets.org/2011/05/remember-to-say-thanks/ [...] [...] Because of its location away from regular air and sea routes, Bikini Atoll was Additionally on this topic you can read: http://blog.electionleaflets.org/2011/05/remember-to-say-thanks/ [...]

]]> Comment on First past the post split the vote tactics by ElectionLeaflets.org » Remember to say thanks http://blog.electionleaflets.org/2011/05/first-past-the-post-split-the-vote-tactics/comment-page-1/#comment-6186 ElectionLeaflets.org » Remember to say thanks Fri, 13 May 2011 10:24:50 +0000 http://blog.electionleaflets.org/?p=833#comment-6186 [...] in Southport, which I reported on earlier, the Labour party campaign succeeded in flipping a LibDem seat into a Tory [...] [...] in Southport, which I reported on earlier, the Labour party campaign succeeded in flipping a LibDem seat into a Tory [...]

]]> Comment on If you put numbers on your ballot they will throw your vote away by Jonathan Clatworthy http://blog.electionleaflets.org/2011/05/if-you-express-a-preference-they-will-throw-your-vote-away/comment-page-1/#comment-6184 Jonathan Clatworthy Mon, 09 May 2011 11:27:12 +0000 http://blog.electionleaflets.org/?p=860#comment-6184 FPTP, while being a bad system, works out worse than it needs to because the media persuade people to treat it as a short term matter, and misinforms people about wasted votes. In the short term every vote is a wasted vote unless the person you vote for gets in by only one vote. In the long term every vote makes a difference. The pundits, and tactical voters, judge who is likely to get in in their ward or constituency, by paying attention to how many votes each candidate got last time. This is why you should always vote for the best candidate. Even with FPTP, if everyone did this we'd be better governed. FPTP, while being a bad system, works out worse than it needs to because the media persuade people to treat it as a short term matter, and misinforms people about wasted votes.
In the short term every vote is a wasted vote unless the person you vote for gets in by only one vote.
In the long term every vote makes a difference. The pundits, and tactical voters, judge who is likely to get in in their ward or constituency, by paying attention to how many votes each candidate got last time. This is why you should always vote for the best candidate. Even with FPTP, if everyone did this we’d be better governed.

]]> Comment on If you put numbers on your ballot they will throw your vote away by Freesteel http://blog.electionleaflets.org/2011/05/if-you-express-a-preference-they-will-throw-your-vote-away/comment-page-1/#comment-6183 Freesteel Sun, 08 May 2011 21:38:48 +0000 http://blog.electionleaflets.org/?p=860#comment-6183 [...] from ElectionLeaflet blog where there are some interesting angry comments. An FOI request has been made to the Electoral [...] [...] from ElectionLeaflet blog where there are some interesting angry comments. An FOI request has been made to the Electoral [...]

]]> Comment on If you put numbers on your ballot they will throw your vote away by Louise Baldock http://blog.electionleaflets.org/2011/05/if-you-express-a-preference-they-will-throw-your-vote-away/comment-page-1/#comment-6182 Louise Baldock Sat, 07 May 2011 19:22:45 +0000 http://blog.electionleaflets.org/?p=860#comment-6182 I saw a three of these in Kensington and Fairfield - because I was the agent for the Labour Party candidate and examined every single spoilt ballot very closely. I argued very strongly with the returning officer that it was clear who the voter intended to support but was unsuccessful. By all means criticise the public for not supporting AV in the referendum, but it is unfair to suggest that party workers weren't bothered. I am always unhappy about spoilt votes and take it very seriously indeed. Far more serious were the large number of postal votes rejected because the accompanying certificate had not been signed. That is where the campaign for education should really be placed. I saw a three of these in Kensington and Fairfield – because I was the agent for the Labour Party candidate and examined every single spoilt ballot very closely. I argued very strongly with the returning officer that it was clear who the voter intended to support but was unsuccessful. By all means criticise the public for not supporting AV in the referendum, but it is unfair to suggest that party workers weren’t bothered. I am always unhappy about spoilt votes and take it very seriously indeed. Far more serious were the large number of postal votes rejected because the accompanying certificate had not been signed. That is where the campaign for education should really be placed.

]]> Comment on If you put numbers on your ballot they will throw your vote away by Mick Killianey http://blog.electionleaflets.org/2011/05/if-you-express-a-preference-they-will-throw-your-vote-away/comment-page-1/#comment-6181 Mick Killianey Fri, 06 May 2011 17:16:15 +0000 http://blog.electionleaflets.org/?p=860#comment-6181 I'm also pro-AV, but the way I see it, what we have isn't *their* crappy electoral system, it's *our* crappy electoral system. And until *we* wise up and change it, then *we* get what *we* deserve. When seemingly intelligent people like you, who genuinely want AV, do stupid things like fill out a ballot incorrectly, it seems to me that it just sticks us with FPTP for that much longer. (As a protest vote, it seems incredibly abusive and anti-social behaviour, as the only people who have to deal with your protest ballot are unpaid volunteers that aren't in any better position than you to do anything about the system, but still have to go through the extra time and effort to categorize it.) Perhaps for the next FPTP/AV election, there needs to be an AV campaign stressing the importance of people filling out their ballot correctly? I’m also pro-AV, but the way I see it, what we have isn’t *their* crappy electoral system, it’s *our* crappy electoral system. And until *we* wise up and change it, then *we* get what *we* deserve.

When seemingly intelligent people like you, who genuinely want AV, do stupid things like fill out a ballot incorrectly, it seems to me that it just sticks us with FPTP for that much longer. (As a protest vote, it seems incredibly abusive and anti-social behaviour, as the only people who have to deal with your protest ballot are unpaid volunteers that aren’t in any better position than you to do anything about the system, but still have to go through the extra time and effort to categorize it.)

Perhaps for the next FPTP/AV election, there needs to be an AV campaign stressing the importance of people filling out their ballot correctly?

]]> Comment on Electoral Commission says no to crowd-sourcing election leaflet monitoring by ElectionLeaflets.org » If you express a preference they will throw your vote away http://blog.electionleaflets.org/2010/01/electoral-commission-says-no-to-crowd-sourcing-election-leaflet-monitoring/comment-page-1/#comment-6180 ElectionLeaflets.org » If you express a preference they will throw your vote away Fri, 06 May 2011 12:10:49 +0000 http://blog.thestraightchoice.org/?p=410#comment-6180 [...] the Electoral Commission — among all the other stuff they don’t do — produces a plethora of large-font guidebooks that lays out the [...] [...] the Electoral Commission — among all the other stuff they don’t do — produces a plethora of large-font guidebooks that lays out the [...]

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